First, a qualification: I'm with Jungians in accepting that not everything about "pre-Oedipal" thinking, including magical thinking, is necessarily entirely bad, false and regressive.
After all, if we accept the premise that at the earliest stages of childhood development, we all experienced the world in this way at once stage. To then hold that early childhood a purely negative or purely psychotic state is to impugn it. Rather, it is more logical to imagine that early childhood gives us the raw material for becoming adults, including the liquidity that enables us to transform from a raw state of infancy to particular cultural expressions of adulthood.
So, there is likely a creative and productive potential to pre-Oedipal thinking. Yet, if adults want to harness this force effectively, they must do it by doubling their consciousness, so that a more mature mindset does not lose complete control of those aspects of the self that remain irrational. Unless this particular sense of shamanistic doubling is enacted, we would be left with unharnessed and wholly unconscious pre-Oedipal states -- which would then be destructive and simply regressive.
Ujheley gives a great explication of pre-oedipal states. Her writing and other texts I have investigated, suggest that part of this regressive mode of thinking involves an attitude that words, once said, are irrevokable, having an effect on others that we would equate with the same force of revelatory truth. Thus, from this regressive perspective there is no human fallibility, no possibility of struggling within an arena which includes both truth and error. Rather, by speaking my words, I make them definitively TRUE.
This literalism in interpreting and speaking is of course extreme and odd. Ideas do not become TRUE just because we speak them. Yet, from the perspective of one who sees and experiences the world through the pre-Oedipal modality, all words spoken have what seems to be the FORCE of truth -- just because he or she has no internal means for defending against them. Without the means to fend off other people's judgements, for instance by putting them in perspective, (since emotional perspective is exactly that which one who is stuck at a pre-Oedipal level lacks), words have the quality of being truths that one must compulsively accept. Thus a word, once spoken, can never be modified, or shown to have been in error. Once it has been spoken, it has become eternally true.
Fundamentalist Christians often seem to process information in this way. From my personal experience, this mode of consciousness also happens to be a feature of right-wingers' political consciousness in a lot of ways. Indeed, the whole vulgar ideology expressed by the Bushite neo-conservatives, that "The reality based community only researches reality, whereas we are the ones who actually create it," would seem to stem directly from a regressive pre-Oedipal consciousness, whereby merely speaking your ideas suffices to turn them into intractable truths. This is pre-Oedipal (regressive) modality of consciousness.
In summary, it all adds up for me now, how sometimes I have said certain things in a jocular, ironic manner, and they have been taken as revelations concerning some supposedly intractable truth about myself. The pre-oedipal mindset is, as I have suggested, very literalistic. One stuck at the pre-Oedipal stage of development is unable to differentiate between what reality actually is, and various spoken ideas about reality. That is because the spoken idea automatically becomes, as it were, reality, simply by speaking it. (The pre-Oedipal personality is unable to "mentalise" -- which is to say, they cannot bracket their sense of perception with the idea that they may not be seeing everything about the world, and the way it is, perfectly.)
Joke-telling, however, relies implicitly upon the listener's capacity to tell the difference. Thus, things I have uttered in a very light spirited, humorous vein, have often been used against me by right wingers, who accompany their accusations with a reprimanding tone: "You once confessed that you were just [some negative or shameful thing]!"
After all, if we accept the premise that at the earliest stages of childhood development, we all experienced the world in this way at once stage. To then hold that early childhood a purely negative or purely psychotic state is to impugn it. Rather, it is more logical to imagine that early childhood gives us the raw material for becoming adults, including the liquidity that enables us to transform from a raw state of infancy to particular cultural expressions of adulthood.
So, there is likely a creative and productive potential to pre-Oedipal thinking. Yet, if adults want to harness this force effectively, they must do it by doubling their consciousness, so that a more mature mindset does not lose complete control of those aspects of the self that remain irrational. Unless this particular sense of shamanistic doubling is enacted, we would be left with unharnessed and wholly unconscious pre-Oedipal states -- which would then be destructive and simply regressive.
Ujheley gives a great explication of pre-oedipal states. Her writing and other texts I have investigated, suggest that part of this regressive mode of thinking involves an attitude that words, once said, are irrevokable, having an effect on others that we would equate with the same force of revelatory truth. Thus, from this regressive perspective there is no human fallibility, no possibility of struggling within an arena which includes both truth and error. Rather, by speaking my words, I make them definitively TRUE.
This literalism in interpreting and speaking is of course extreme and odd. Ideas do not become TRUE just because we speak them. Yet, from the perspective of one who sees and experiences the world through the pre-Oedipal modality, all words spoken have what seems to be the FORCE of truth -- just because he or she has no internal means for defending against them. Without the means to fend off other people's judgements, for instance by putting them in perspective, (since emotional perspective is exactly that which one who is stuck at a pre-Oedipal level lacks), words have the quality of being truths that one must compulsively accept. Thus a word, once spoken, can never be modified, or shown to have been in error. Once it has been spoken, it has become eternally true.
Fundamentalist Christians often seem to process information in this way. From my personal experience, this mode of consciousness also happens to be a feature of right-wingers' political consciousness in a lot of ways. Indeed, the whole vulgar ideology expressed by the Bushite neo-conservatives, that "The reality based community only researches reality, whereas we are the ones who actually create it," would seem to stem directly from a regressive pre-Oedipal consciousness, whereby merely speaking your ideas suffices to turn them into intractable truths. This is pre-Oedipal (regressive) modality of consciousness.
In summary, it all adds up for me now, how sometimes I have said certain things in a jocular, ironic manner, and they have been taken as revelations concerning some supposedly intractable truth about myself. The pre-oedipal mindset is, as I have suggested, very literalistic. One stuck at the pre-Oedipal stage of development is unable to differentiate between what reality actually is, and various spoken ideas about reality. That is because the spoken idea automatically becomes, as it were, reality, simply by speaking it. (The pre-Oedipal personality is unable to "mentalise" -- which is to say, they cannot bracket their sense of perception with the idea that they may not be seeing everything about the world, and the way it is, perfectly.)
Joke-telling, however, relies implicitly upon the listener's capacity to tell the difference. Thus, things I have uttered in a very light spirited, humorous vein, have often been used against me by right wingers, who accompany their accusations with a reprimanding tone: "You once confessed that you were just [some negative or shameful thing]!"
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