1. (3) Jennifer Armstrong's answer to Were Camus and Nietzsche soft determinists? - Quora

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    I’m less familiar with Camus than I am with Nietzsche, although they share some similarities in terms of world view, as both are atheists.

    Let me focus here on Nietzsche. We need to understand that Nietzsche was a moral philosopher, and so he came at things from the perspective of tying to generate moral coherency, rather than formulating an ontological perspective that could determine whether determinism was “true”. Regarding the objectivity of the matter in question, Nietzsche merely notes that philosophers have come down on both sides.

    In general, though, he seems to think that “free will” is refuted.

    But moral philosophy, rather than ontology, was Nietzsche’s forte.

    And it is on the basis of establishing moral coherency to the universe that Nietzsche refutes the idea that there can be any free will.

    The reason for this is that if we have free will, rather than some kind of unspecified determinism, we will all end up being charged with an overwhelming guilt for such things as “who one is”, and “the qualities one has” and also for the experiences one has had, which are wrongly deemed “choices”.

    Such a universe, where one is guilty for one’s mere existence, would be incoherent Therefore “free will” does not exist.

    This is a strong determinism.

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    He was trying to combat the mass mentality of philosophical and moral idealism, in favor of creative individualism, in TSZ. It can be very hard to realize what these two are, since we swim in an ideological ocean of idealism. For instance, we may have the view that so long as we are moral, things will work out well for us. (That is moral idealism.) Or we may think that there is a categorical imperative that defines what we should do. (Also moral and philosophical idealism.) Or that there is a standard of perfection — “perfect forms”. (This is philosophical Idealism as per Plato.) All idealisms rob us of some vitality for living. But, unless we are the kind of person, like myself, to really have OVERDONE it, with regard to embracing some form of idealism, we do not realize it, because we cannot see the stranglehold these ideas have over us. TSZ is an attack on these systems of thought, from many angles.

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  3. (2) Jennifer Armstrong's answer to Did Nietzsche really believe his philosophies, or was he the ultimate devil’s advocate? - Quora

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    His philosophies really do reflect his actual experiences. And what he experienced had to do to an enormous degree with the communication gap between people of different levels of intelligence, that Susanna Viljanen keeps going on about.

    In fact, language becomes useless to convey our direct needs when the gap of intelligence gets too high. This is because what one wants to convey is often conceptual or technical, or else otherwise nuanced, but the majority of people will only be able to draw a much more directly emotional meaning out of what one has to say.

    Since others have a more direct facility with language, using an emotional style of communication, this means that others are able to defend and protect their interests, whereas the “higher man” cannot do so — at least not in the same way.

    This of course is not so much of an issue if one wants to relate something to others blandly, and “objectively” or “scientifically”. But if one wants to relate one’s actual experiences, along with one’s actual world view, one runs into trouble. This is surprisingly difficult to do, as others emotional interpretations of their own experiences get in the way. And, since the emotional interpretations of the majority are rather than same, it makes it seem, actually, as if reality itself were against one’s own view of things. (That’s not actually so true at all, its just that realizing the effect of the the collected emotional views of others can deliver a hell of a wallop.)

    This is to say the Nietzsche observed that the dangers facing the “higher man” were at least one hundred times more than those faced by the average person. They were much more likely to come to grief, by means of various forms of attack, disbelief and disagreement, than anyone who already is part of the mass of people who speak more emotionally and reactively,

    So, whether or not one has had these sorts of experiences, of being very much outside of the normative communication range, is the key issue driving Nietzsche’s philosophy. It’s also why some people read his writing and cannot draw any meaning from it, whereas for others it simply makes sense, putting the pieces of the puzzle of one’s life’s experiences together, in a way that is both morale boosting and reassuring.

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    "There is always a certain madness in love but there is also always some reason in madness". Friedrich Nietzsche. What do you think?

    Mutih Skeini gives the more comprehensive answer here. However, I want to add something and also change the perspective a bit here.

    This concerns Nietzsche’s blind spot for gender relations. In addition I have read biographies which imply that NIetzsche, Ree and Salome had agreed to have a ménage à trois. Whether this was to be a purely cerebral relationship, in Nietzsche’s mind is anybody’s guess.

    My own guess is that Lou Salome was a thoroughly modern woman who was way ahead of the 19th Century game as to how she wanted to live her life. She and Ree probably had some kind of physical encounter, which she confessed to Nietzsche. Nietzsche being a puritanical old sod at core flipped the lid.

    As said, gender relations were a point in which Nietzsche’s acute psychological observational skills went awry. His whole conservative world view would have mitigated against him seeing things as they actually were — which is that Lou Salome had absolutely no desire, whatsoever, to give birth to the future Ubermensch. In this sense, of course, she negated the “reason” in his “madness”.

    And this bring us, in turn to a point made by Georges Bataille, who was in every other respect a keen 20th Century apprentice of Fredrich Nietzsche (even to the point of proclaiming “I am Nietzsche”.) Bataille noted that Nietzsche, with his philosophy of moral transcendence, has not lived “a very successful life”. What as needed, according to Bataille, was to reverse the direction of moral meaning, so that instead of seeking refuge more and more up into the sky, one aborted the whole Icarian project of one’s own free will, by plunging directly into the Earth. This is to acknowledge a fundamental metaphysical principle: “the will to transcend is the will to fall.” But the fundamental principle of life can be short-circuited to our benefit.

    One of the implicit arguments here might be cannot beat one’s sexual desires by “transcending” them.

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    Mutih Skeini gives the more comprehensive answer here. However, I want to add something and also change the perspective a bit here.

    This concerns Nietzsche’s blind spot for gender relations. In addition I have read biographies which imply that NIetzsche, Ree and Salome had agreed to have a ménage à trois. Whether this was to be a purely cerebral relationship, in Nietzsche’s mind is anybody’s guess.

    My own guess is that Lou Salome was a thoroughly modern woman who was way ahead of the 19th Century game as to how she wanted to live her life. She and Ree probably had some kind of physical encounter, which she confessed to Nietzsche. Nietzsche being a puritanical old sod at core flipped the lid.

    As said, gender relations were a point in which Nietzsche’s acute psychological observational skills went awry. His whole conservative world view would have mitigated against him seeing things as they actually were — which is that Lou Salome had absolutely no desire, whatsoever, to give birth to the future Ubermensch. In this sense, of course, she negated the “reason” in his “madness”.

    And this bring us, in turn to a point made by Georges Bataille, who was in every other respect a keen 20th Century apprentice of Fredrich Nietzsche (even to the point of proclaiming “I am Nietzsche”.) Bataille noted that Nietzsche, with his philosophy of moral transcendence, has not lived “a very successful life”. What as needed, according to Bataille, was to reverse the direction of moral meaning, so that instead of seeking refuge more and more up into the sky, one aborted the whole Icarian project of one’s own free will, by plunging directly into the Earth. This is to acknowledge a fundamental metaphysical principle: “the will to transcend is the will to fall.” But it can be short-circuited to our benefit.

    One of the implicit arguments here might be cannot beat one’s sexual desires by “transcending” them.

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    No. With high IQ comes also the ability to reason, to see cause-consequence continuums and understanding why things are that way. With perfectly average IQ, the only thing you have are your feelings.

    IQ of 100 denotes the perfectly average IQ. And trust me, people with 100 IQ look at people with 70 IQ in an extremely cruel way. We, who have IQ of 130+, consider those with IQ of 100 as “normies” as we relate to them with rationality. But those who have a perfectly average IQ, consider those with IQ of 70 as “retards” as they form their outlook with feelings, not with reason. And feelings are irrational - and cruel.

    According to Leta Hollingworth, Grady M. Towers, Michael W. Ferguson et al, the communication range - the bracket where humans can form meaningful interaction and human relations - is +/- 30 points (two sigmas) - if the IQ difference is greater than that, no meaningful relationship can be formed. And the situation may be even crueller: according to D.K. Simonton, this “window of comprehension” may actually be just one sigma - 15 points. When your intelligence difference exceeds that bracker, there becomes a massive change in ‘culture’, where you can’t really understand each other or the things each other do. And it is not about how you speak but what you speak. You simply live in different worlds. To put it bluntly: they are not interested in skydiving and I am not interested in reality telly.

    The Finnish military is based on conscription, which means the average IQ of the cohort is that of the Finnish boys - 99.6 . [Girls are all volunteers, which means their IQ is higher.] It provided me a marvellous opportunity to observe the conscripts and their behaviour. And yes - Forrest Gump is no fictional character. There were boys like him.

    For someone with IQ of 100, both those with IQ of 70 and those with IQ of 130 are outcasts, as they are outside their own communication range. They relate to both with ostracism. And what is even crueller is that the normies relate to both with the same way - they treat both as “idiots”. Those with 70 because they cannot grasp the world in which those with IQ 100 live, and those with 130 because they themselves cannot grasp the world in which those with 130 live. They form their relations on feelings basis. And their feelings tell them that those with 70 are retards and those with 130 are freaks.

    This is the reason why I attempt to avoid the company of normies as much as possible. I do not want to get torn into pieces. They will treat me as a freak, no matter what I do. Having social skills is a two-lane road. It is not enough that I can grok them because they sure cannot grok me. But if I had an IQ of 70, I would live in an even more cruel world - I would be denigrated, teased, harassed and being treated as a retard - and I would not understand why they’d be so cruel.

    What is unfortunate is that IQ of 70 is very close to borderline debility. Life is a tragedy for them, and while the VHIQ people have their own circles and own tribes, there are very few similar for the VLIQ people.

    Interestingly, I can get along much better with people who have IQ of 70 than 100. Those in the VLIQ segment usually are like big children - they do not have a single evil bone in their bodies, they usually are very honest and earnest on what they do. Yes, I can get frustrated with them, but they usually just nod to me. And if they act badly, it is because of their low intelligence - and not committing stupidities even when their intelligence would tell them to know better.

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    I find that it is just a matter of time before I upset some people. Because I have high pattern recognition tendencies, I often speak in sub-texts, making jokes, or even conveying that I have made decisions based on pattern recognition. But for others, the jokes are not conveyed, and the decisions I make do not seem rational at all. Alas, I am also not able to convey, to nearest and dearest, some of my most difficult life decisions, because I have made them on the basis of not wanting to trigger another repetition of a certain PATTERN of experiences. I have to side-step a bullet. But for all the world, this looks like an emotional reaction to something, rather than what it is. (Actually one must be very stoical and put emotions completely aside for this kind of a decision.) And on and on it goes: my jokes are not funny, they express “envy”, my stoicism is not real, it expresses a pure emotional reaction (non-conformity out of fear)….everything I do, everything I think, is deemed to the opposite to what it really is.

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    Absolutely. But many more of his ideas are relevant. We are living in the days Nietzsche (FN) described the time of nihilism. Nihilism is the cause for people seeking answers in religious groups, medication, heroin, mushrooms, freebasing, fringe (Nazi, white pride, etc.) groups, terrorist groups, extreme sexual situations, masochism, sadism, you get the idea. The reason is they do not feel as if they are part of this world. All these answers are sought in a world of pervasive meaninglessness. I have always wondered why the religious mind (especially Christianity) consistently seeks to deny that life on this earth is in itself a supreme value, but, rather, is in need of a higher, transcendental justification? And though it may be understandable, is it honest?

    We live in a dark period, and all of us suffer the painful contradictions and uncertainties which characterize this age. One of our most abused manners with which we deal with these sufferings is psychology. One aspect of the modern fissure between knowledge and mind (but perhaps not believers in Jesus “and other religious figures”) is found by those millions of people who participate in the sketchy enterprise of seeking out psychologists for self-understanding. What “self” is being understood in the psychologist’s office? A sick self? An aggressive self? A “depressed” self? A “borderline” self? A “masochistic” self? A sex addict? An anti-social self? But, whatever the person who experiences these things, somehow psychologists characterize and label them using supposedly “objective” criteria. Thus, psychology always denies its own psychology, and thus it is bad psychology. The fundamentally subjective nature of each “patient’s” pain, whose expressions of confusion and pain are unique to them, and, moreover, each person’s problems will mean different things to different doctors, and each question asked by each “doctor” means something different to each “patient.” We have become a nation of sick people. But the problem I am raising is much bigger.

    Actual facts hardly exist in the study of the mind, so what is the basis of psychology to claim objective analysis and universality about the sufferings of unique patients? Each person possesses different desires and therefore different self-knowledge. All knowledge is knowledge of something. Our experience of the world is subjective since we are a particular subject viewing an object. We can view ourselves, but we are then the subject and object, and as described above regarding psychologists, the nature of viewing oneself is skewed by the perspective or purpose. Also, the subjective nature of our self-analysis is too complicated because viewing a person as an object is viewing a false self. The self is, by its nature, subjective—that is except to modern psychologists. Nietzsche put this problem brilliantly, “And thus all new knowledge about our “soul” is knowledge of a different soul.” Put more coolly, all activities by which man seeks self-knowledge are false at their core. We have come to the point in this civilization if we are honest, that there is no “objective knowledge.” But Man cannot live with this conclusion. It is a game that cannot be won—but Man still tries to escape this final pronouncement—even though it was articulated almost 90 years ago. As Nietzsche pointed out “Since all of our questions are subjective, and all questions call for particular types of answers, are we not required to take responsibility for the kinds of questions we askbecause the nature of our question will always lead to a very different type of answer.”

    The types of perspective to which we ascribe knowledge are dangerous to the world and our souls. We all know, or should know, that when psychology gazes at art or listens to music, it inevitably denigrates these creations of beauty, by objectifying the desires and passions that went into the art, thus reducing them to “mere” sublimation. History, as well, undermines the accumulated reputation of human history by characterizing the almost god-like monuments of the past as based on childish or foolish motives. And, perhaps most importantly, Science has exposed the true nature of matter and energy as either incomprehensible or chaotic, senseless energy. And isn’t the reason that physics died in this age, (as opposed to cosmological physics) that, in the last century Niels Bohr, Werner Heisenberg, and Albert Einstein revealed that science was unable to comprehend the object of its inquiry within one logically coherent system. And the unmoveable wall now left between man’s mind and his desire for truth and his inability to reach it has led to extreme scientific pessimism, and even to incomprehensible scientific mysticism.

    Nietzsche demanded that these insights all be understood by all who came after him, and even more, his insight that “the desire for truth is in need of critique.” He disclosed a significant and fatal link between truth and the amorality of science. Science at its core still believes that its subject and methods are beyond any moral questions, and it steadfastly refuses to allow “higher values” to influence its “higher truth”—as it conceives it. And it will follow its insatiable search wherever it may lead, beyond any moral desirability and in part to satisfy society’s hunger for the applications of its technique—not its scientific understanding. And has not the search for truth in our age (which is hardly certain of its values), already led both to trivialities—and catastrophe. But we know in this age that every destructive invention discovered by science will ultimately be used in furtherance of genocide, terrorism, murder, the killing of innocents, and even war crimes such as using atomic weapons on Japanese civilians? There is only one conclusion, our desire for truth, as it is sought by Science, embodies an element of nihilism in its amoral ethics.

    More responsive to your answer, the result of the nihilism pervasive in this age, as pronounced by Nietzsche, is that man, in his soul, is incapable of finding anything meaningful in the world so he takes refuge in every evasive action. And, in our society, there are so many: “morality without God?—No, all purely moral demands without their religious basis must needs end in nihilism.” So, “what is left but [sex, money,] drugs, alcohol, and intoxication, with music, cruelty, hero-worship or hatred, some sort of mysticism….Art for Art’s sake, Truth for Truth’s sake, all as a narcotic against self-disgust, even to the point of the fanaticism of the banal.”

    In what was clearly a despairing moment, Nietzsche wrote that: “he who no longer finds what is great in God will find it nowhere. He must either deny it or create it.” Since truth is subjective, our baser instincts are legitimized by society. Nietzsche was legitimately afraid that honesty of mind, genuine aesthetic perception, and the integrity of character would be debased, corrupted and finally crushed in the age to come. Wasn’t he right?

    Certainly, Nietzsche’s pronouncements cannot be ignored, but perhaps we can take away something positive: lucidity in a dark age and perhaps even the conviction that philosophical inquiry may be a noble undertaking.

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  8. Jennifer Armstrong's answer to Psychic warfare is a different type of asymmetric warfare, whereby the attackers will always have a decisive advantage over the defenders because the latter could never reciprocate the tactics of their attackers. Do you agree or disagree? - Quora

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    Psychological — not so much “psychic” — warfare is a thing. It can seem quite “psychic” though, because we are all adherents to some kind of larger political structure, but we are, most of us, unconscious of it. This is to say that we do not realize that our psychological well-being is assured by maintaining and reinforcing the political structure that we are already a part of.

    When at attack comes, it seems to hit us at a “psychic” level, although rest assured it is still something purely psychological and structural.

    My investigations into this have been very deep, and extensive too. To give just one example, we can have a look at how internalized belief systems can be leveraged to bring about radical social change.

    Nietzsche, for instance, noticed that the European ruling classes were particularly susceptible to the idea of sacrificing their lives for a higher cause. This was because they had internalized the ideology of Christianity.

    Consequently those who seek to overturn to the system by taking power away from the powerful will use an appeal to “justice”.: “To those would they thereby do injury who have power at present: for with those the preaching of death is still most at home.” This is actually psychological warfare, according to what Nietzsche has observed above.

    Now, along comes Georges Bataille, who is actually an admirer of Nietzsche, another half a century later. But Bataille, unlike Nietzsche believes in socialism. Bataille, being French, has a deep experience of French Catholicism in his mind, and in his background. So he decides to use precisely a preaching of death to push forward his agenda of a revolution.

    To this end, Bataille creates a partially veiled motif of human sacrifice. By means of repetition and allusion to other more general anthropological and speculative matters, he forges a psychological connection between the idea of authenticity and sacrifice of the self (including the sacrifice of psychological equilibrium or psychological safety). He aims to create a revitalized Christianity, in this sense, which has no recourse to morality. The sacrifice of Christ happened because human beings engage in human sacrifice. Thus, there is nobody to blame but human beings. We should accept our natures, in this regard, and continue to sacrifice ourselves for the revolution.

    That is Bataille’s lesson. Of course it is also a form of internal (intra-psychic) warfare.

    And there are other kinds of attack, too, that happen on the basis of attacking our structural fabric. As I’ve implied, the reason why these are so effective is that we generally do not realize how much we belong to a bigger picture. We only see the small things, which are ourselves. But a rearrangement of the fabric of our being, by those who know what they are doing, can come across as if it were psychical warfare.

    On the other hand, knowledge is power, and by becoming aware and inured to these kinds of attacks, one can set up some kind of defence.

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  9. (3) How do we know Nietzsche's sister edited his work? - Quora

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    It is speculated that this is so because she had motive and opportunity, or at least the latter.

    But if it really were so that Will to Power was edited, then we would have the evidence that there was editorial red pen on the original manuscript, and we would be able to reverse the edits to return the manuscript to its original form. As it is, we do not have such evidence.

    It is required to look at the structure of the text, its style and tone, and make comparisons with other of Nietzsche’s works, in order to determine if the work is really his or not.

    Something stylistically different in this work, compared to his other published works is that there seem to be about five different perspectives in it. None of these seem like his sister’s perspective, which would be prosaic to a great extent and anti-semitic.

    One must consider that these four or five perspectives are political perspectives. In the first volume, Nietzsche speaks of art from an artistic perspective. But then he goes somewhere else entirely from volumes two to four.

    In volume two he proceeds to outline a view that would have much in common with American libertarianism. The idea he presents is of untrammeled or unlimited accumulation. However, the section does not falter or deviate from a consistent point of view. This is a metaphysical perspective based on a rudimentary “science” regarding energetic forces.

    Nietzsche then moves on to present another point of view, this time uncompromisingly aristocratic and harsh toward modernity. He demands to “wage war” on the masses.

    In a following section, the point of view is aristocratic and superior still, but more benign. He virtually contradicts himself: “On no account should the higher man wage war on the masses.”

    In all of these sections, a different point of view is presented that is philosophically rigorous and consistent with itself. There is no sign of tampering at least in this regard, since the changes of viewpoint are only possible for one possessed of a very highly developed mind. They are, in effect, a “watermark”, — a subtle structure like that you would find in a bank note — guaranteeing the authenticity of his work.

    Of course those who know Nietzsche’s broader works may also realize that he took pride in creating “fish hooks”, which in this case are different ideological points of view, which he felt assured that different sorts of people would be obliged to bite into. it seems that this indicates the full development of what Nietzsche called his “perspectivism”, which is given a political set of dimensions.

    In no part of the writing is there any modern identity politics — hence no anti-Semitism in the manner that we would recognize it today. There is some expression of caution regarding a particular style of Jewish philosophizing that is counter-political (and therefore counter-Nietzschean). But there is also the direct statement that those who espouse anti-Semitism are “botched and bungled”. Both of these sentiments can also be found in Nietzsche’s other works, already approved and published by him.

    And finally, there is only one small segment that I found, from the point of view of my own training in literature, that seemed at all out of place. And this is a paragraph or so near the beginning of the second volume. Its level of philosophical engagement is so banal that one might think a Jordan Peterson has written it. It could, on the other hand have been Nietzsche’s sister. This part urges us to keep a clean and tidy room.

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